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questions sur le vol MH370 du 8 mars 2014

Publié par Bernard Maillard sur 9 Mars 2014, 14:52pm

Catégories : #Exodialogues

En premier lieu, toutes mes pensées pour les 227 passagers, les 12 membres du personnel d'équipage du vol de Malaysia Airlines, ainsi que leurs familles et amis. Ce vol MH370 a soudainement disparu des écrans radars et a probablement sombré en mer le 8 mars 2014 entre la Malaisie et le Vietnam. Ce vol reliait Kuala Lumpur en Malaisie à Pekin en Chine.

Plus de 24 heures après l'accident, la localisation de l'avion et les premières hypothèses de causes de cet accident n'étaient toujours pas établies.

Les données disponibles sur la chronologie, les derniers contacts radars, et signaux issus des transponders ADS-B ne sont pas cohérents au stade actuel. Entre 17:21 UTC dernière trace relevée de l'ADS-B transponder et 18:40 UTC, heure indiquée du dernier contact avec le Subang Air Traffic Control, que s'est t il réellement passé??? et pourquoi l'heure du dernier contact a-t-il varié de 1h10 entre le premier communiqué et le communiqué n° 6 de Malaysia Airlines ??? D'où provient l'écart entre la dernière position relevée par flightradar24 et le contrôle aérien???

1/ L'avion, un Boeing 777-200 était équipé de transponder. Le site suédois http://www.flightradar24.com/ permet de suivre les traces en temps réel de tous les avions équipés de ce dispositif à travers le monde.

extraits de la page facebook de flightradar24 le 9 mars 2014: [en italique delta heure locale, heure UTC, rajouté décalage 16h]

"The ADS-B transponder of an aircraft is transmitting data twice per second. FR24 saves data every 10-60 second depending on altitude. On cruising altitude data is normally saved once per 60 seconds. By analyzing all our databases and logs we have managed to recover about 2 signals per minute for the last 10 minutes.

The last location tracked by Flightradar24 is
Time UTC: 17:21:03 [ 01:21:03 local]
Lat: 6.97
Lon: 103.63
Alt: 35000
Speed: 471 knots
Heading: 40

Today there are reports in media that MH370 may have turned around. FR24 have not tracked this. This could have happened if the aircraft suddenly lost altitude as FR24 coverage in that area is limited to about 30000 feet.

FR24 have not tracked any emergency squawk alerts for flight MH370 before we lost coverage of the aircraft. Playback for flight MH370 is available on
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/mh370#2d81a27 "

2/ Le site de Malaysia Airlines

http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/dark-site.html

indique les heures du dernier contact, et latitude /longitude du dernier écho radar

Premier communiqué de Malaysia Airlines 'disponible ce jour 9 mars 2014 sur leur site internet :

Saturday, March 08, 07:30 AM MYT +0800 Media Statement - MH370 Incident released at 7.24am

Sepang, 8 March 2014: Malaysia Airlines confirms that flight MH370 has lost contact with Subang Air Traffic Control at 2.40am, [18:40 UTC] today (8 March 2014).

Flight MH370, operated on the B777-200 aircraft, departed Kuala Lumpur at 12.41am on 8 March 2014. MH370 was expected to land in Beijing at 6.30am the same day. The flight was carrying a total number of 227 passengers (including 2 infants), 12 crew members.

extraits du quatrième communiqué avec la dernière position radar connue

"Saturday, March 08, 04:20 PM MYT +0800 Malaysia Airlines MH370 Flight Incident - 4th Media Statement

Sepang, 8 March 2014: Malaysia Airlines is still unable to establish any contact or determine the whereabouts of flight MH370. Earlier today, Subang ATC had lost contact with the aircraft at 2.40am [18:40 UTC]. The last known position of MH370 before it disappeared off the radar was 065515 North (longitude) and 1033443 East (latitude)".

extraits du 6ème communiqué de Malaysia Airlines qui avance l'heure du dernier contact :

"Sunday, March 09, 02:00 AM MYT +0800 Malaysia Airlines MH370 Flight Incident - 6th Media Statement

Sepang, 9 March 2014: Malaysia Airlines humbly asks all Malaysians and people around the world to pray for flight MH370.

It has been more than 24 hours since we last heard from MH370 at 1.30am [17:30 UTC]. The search and rescue team is yet to determine the whereabouts of the Boeing 777-200 aircraft. "

la Manche en Baie de seine, plage d'Hermanville sur Mer, Calvados, France, mars 2014

la Manche en Baie de seine, plage d'Hermanville sur Mer, Calvados, France, mars 2014

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Bernard Maillard 15/03/2014 11:12

communication du premier ministre Malaisien ce jour 15 mars 2014, confirmant la prise en compte de nouvelles informations satellites ( issues du système Boeing? publiées tardivement six jours après l'événement???) qui font entrer les recherches dans une nouvelle phase, avec un vol prolongé de l'avion jusqu'à 8h11. A noter que le PM souligne qu'il a fallu ces données satellites pour confirmer que l'aéronef, repéré par les radars militaires malaisiens, ayant tourné vers l'ouest était bien le MH 370. Le PM souligne également que toutes les hypothèses demeurent ouvertes à ce jour.

PM NAJIB RAZAK’S PRESS STATEMENT ON MH370 – 15th MARCH 2014
Mac 15th, 2014 by Najib Razak
Seven days ago Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 disappeared. We realise this is an excruciating time for the families of those on board. No words can describe the pain they must be going through. Our thoughts and our prayers are with them.
I have been appraised of the on-going search operation round the clock. At the beginning of the operation, I ordered the search area to be broadened; I instructed the Malaysian authorities to share all relevant information freely and transparently with the wider investigation team; and I requested that our friends and allies join the operation. As of today, 14 countries, 43 ships and 58 aircraft are involved in the search. I wish to thank all the governments for their help at such a crucial time.
Since day one, the Malaysian authorities have worked hand-in-hand with our international partners – including neighbouring countries, the aviation authorities and a multinational search force – many of whom have been here on the ground since Sunday.
We have shared information in real time with authorities who have the necessary experience to interpret the data. We have been working nonstop to assist the investigation. And we have put our national security second to the search for the missing plane.
It is widely understood that this has been a situation without precedent.
We have conducted search operations over land, in the South China Sea, the Straits of Malacca, the Andaman Sea and the Indian Ocean. At every stage, we acted on the basis of verified information, and we followed every credible lead. Sometimes these leads have led nowhere.
There has been intense speculation. We understand the desperate need for information on behalf of the families and those watching around the world. But we have a responsibility to the investigation and the families to only release information that has been corroborated. And our primary motivation has always been to find the plane.
In the first phase of the search operation, we searched near MH370’s last known position, in the South China Sea. At the same time, it was brought to our attention by the Royal Malaysian Air Force that, based on their primary radar, an aircraft – the identity of which could not be confirmed – made a turn back. The primary radar data showed the aircraft proceeding on a flight path which took it to an area north of the Straits of Malacca.
Given this credible data, which was subsequently corroborated with the relevant international authorities, we expanded the area of search to include the Straits of Malacca and, later, to the Andaman Sea.
Early this morning I was briefed by the investigation team – which includes the FAA, NTSB, the AAIB, the Malaysian authorities and the Acting Minister of Transport – on new information that sheds further light on what happened to MH370.
Based on new satellite information, we can say with a high degree of certainty that the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) was disabled just before the aircraft reached the East coast of peninsular Malaysia. Shortly afterwards, near the border between Malaysian and Vietnamese air traffic control, the aircraft’s transponder was switched off.
From this point onwards, the Royal Malaysian Air Force primary radar showed that an aircraft which was believed – but not confirmed – to be MH370 did indeed turn back. It then flew in a westerly direction back over peninsular Malaysia before turning northwest. Up until the point at which it left military primary radar coverage, these movements are consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane.
Today, based on raw satellite data that was obtained from the satellite data service provider, we can confirm that the aircraft shown in the primary radar data was flight MH370. After much forensic work and deliberation, the FAA, NTSB, AAIB and the Malaysian authorities, working separately on the same data, concur.
According to the new data, the last confirmed communication between the plane and the satellite was at 8:11AM Malaysian time on Saturday 8th March. The investigations team is making further calculations which will indicate how far the aircraft may have flown after this last point of contact. This will help us to refine the search.
Due to the type of satellite data, we are unable to confirm the precise location of the plane when it last made contact with the satellite.
However, based on this new data, the aviation authorities of Malaysia and their international counterparts have determined that the plane’s last communication with the satellite was in one of two possible corridors: a northern corridor stretching approximately from the border of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan to northern Thailand, or a southern corridor stretching approximately from Indonesia to the southern Indian ocean. The investigation team is working to further refine the information.
In view of this latest development the Malaysian authorities have refocused their investigation into the crew and passengers on board. Despite media reports that the plane was hijacked, I wish to be very clear: we are still investigating all possibilities as to what caused MH370 to deviate from its original flight path.
This new satellite information has a significant impact on the nature and scope of the search operation. We are ending our operations in the South China Sea and reassessing the redeployment of our assets. We are working with the relevant countries to request all information relevant to the search, including radar data.
As the two new corridors involve many countries, the relevant foreign embassies have been invited to a briefing on the new information today by the Malaysian Foreign Ministry and the technical experts. I have also instructed the Foreign Ministry to provide a full briefing to foreign governments which had passengers on the plane. This morning, Malaysia Airlines has been informing the families of the passengers and crew of these new developments.
Clearly, the search for MH370 has entered a new phase. Over the last seven days, we have followed every lead and looked into every possibility. For the families and friends of those involved, we hope this new information brings us one step closer to finding the plane.

Bernard Maillard 14/03/2014 09:24

Point de la situation sur la disparition du vol MH370: au bout de six jours de la disparition de l'avion en mer, dans une zone de faible profondeur, où le trafic maritime est l'un des plus importants au monde, aucun indice en surface de la mer d'un éventuel crash de l'avion. L'avion aurait suspendu , sans aucun précurseur, toutes ses émissions radios, transponder, télémaintenance, ..autour de 1h20, sauf peut être à vérifier en fonction de ce qu'indiquera précisément Boeing, des données sur le système Boeing. D'où, trois hypothèses:
1 /l'explication de ce qui s'est passé nécessite la prise en compte de l'intervention d'un OVNI/UFO
2/ si des OVNI/UFO sont effectivement présents sur terre, alors ils cherchent à demeurer discrets. Cf article Exodialogue sur ce blog. Donc s'il y a eu intervention d'un ovni/ufo, elle a été provoquée, comme un piège tendu, par une entité terrestre, dans une approche elle même solo et discrète, en usant notamment de la porosité de la sécurité de l'aéroport malaisien pour équiper spécifiquement cette avion d'un collecteur ad hoc de données.
3/ Les ovnis/ufos veulent demeurer discrets, comme celui ou celle qui a provoqué cette intervention, il sera donc très difficile d'avoir une explication claire.
D'où trois trois suites possibles:
1/ la nation ou l'entité à l'origine de l'intervention a pisté l'avion, et dès le crash, a récupéré les boites noires en effacant dans la nuit toute trace de surface. On devrait alors redécouvrir dans les jours à venir ces boites, Mais effacées de toute trace sur ce qui s'est exactement passé, et avec une épave de l'avion dégarnie de ses équipements spécifiques de collecte. Il est possible que l'intervention de l'OVNI/UFO ait consisté à effacer par flash électromagnétique toutes les données enregistrées de l'avion, avec perte de tous les instruments de navigation, d'où après l'intervention, un mode dégradé de vol sans instrument de navigation à l'aveugle qui s'est terminé par un crash.Toute nation qui récupérera ou rendra publique le contenu des boites noires devra être questionnée de façon très approfondie sur le mode de récupération et de traitement des boites noires.
2/ devant le piège, l'OVNI/UFO a éliminé toute trace de l'avion. Il faudra alors requestionner toute les personnes, passagers, équipage, mais également les équipes de maintenance et de logistique, qui aurait pu approcher l'avion et installer un dispositif de collecte spécifique voire un piège à ovni/ufo
3/ devant le piège, l'OVNI/UFO a déplacé ailleurs l'avion avec ses passagers. Il faut alors rester à l'écoute de tout autre signal faible précurseur de la présence de ces OVNIS/UFO. L'exodialogue demeure alors plus que jamais d'actualité, dans une approche prudente car la désinformation peut être partout, résolue car un fait tel que la disparition d'un avion avec 239 personnes ne peut pas demeurer sans explication, mais ouverte au dialogue, à l'exodialogue, cf article par ailleurs.
Cela peut paraitre fou, mais je tiens à demeurer dans une approche basée sur les faits et uniquement les faits. L'expérience nous révèle que la réalité dépasse souvent la fiction.

Bernard Maillard 14/03/2014 08:03

toujours aucun indice le 14 mars. Extension des recherches dans l'Ocean Indien avec l'US NAVY sur la base de nouvelles informations mais absolument pas claires.
l'avion aurait continué à envoyer des signaux sur le télésystème de Boeing, après l'arrêt des émissions radios et des transponders, suivant l'équipement d'origine bien que Malaysian airlines n'ait pas souscrit au service.
In an echo of claims made in the Wall Street Journal earlier on Thursday that the plane transmitted engine data for hours after the plane disappeared, US officials briefed on the search told Associated Press that Boeing systems on the plane also sent signals to a satellite for four hours after the aircraft went missing.
The Boeing 777-200 was not transmitting data to the satellite, but was instead sending out a signal to establish contact, said the official, who was not named.
If true, it could suggest the aircraft was still flying.
Boeing offers a satellite service that can receive a stream of data during flight on how the aircraft is functioning. Malaysia Airlines did not subscribe to that service, but the plane was still automatically sending pings to the satellite, the official said.
source BBC
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26572172

Bernard Maillard 13/03/2014 13:31

Le détroit de Malacca est une artère majeure du trafic maritime mondial. comment imaginer que la chute d'une avion ait pu passer inaperçue???

Bernard Maillard 13/03/2014 13:28

BBC 13 March: MalaysianTransport minister Hishammuddin Hussein :
Mr Hussein also denied a report in the Wall Street Journal that the plane had sent engine data to the ground for more than four hours after it lost contact with air traffic control.
He said that his team had spoken to Malaysian Airlines and Rolls-Royce, the engine's manufacturers, who both said the report was "inaccurate".
"The last transmission from the aircraft was at 01:07 which indicated that everything was normal," Mr Hussein said.

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